“Daily encouragement, inspiration, FUN, and real talk about the #WorshipLife. By worship leaders/musicians for worship leaders/musicians.”

Worship Through Times of Disagreement

I am a very opinionated person—yet, I always try to see the other side of the story.

Part of my story involves around a decade spent as a full-time musician, most of that time touring full-time on the road.

Let me tell you—although I would not trade that time for anything, you put 7+ unique personalities on a tin can (aka, a bus), the atmosphere gets…

…interesting…at times.

I would run out of fingers and toes before I’d get to the number of times one of us quit, had some sort of biblical/theological or practical disagreement, etc.

Yet, we loved one another.

We STOOD for our mission.

We knew our calling and our purpose.

And—ultimately—we let NOTHING get in the way of it.

We should approach the worship experience in our local church context as well.

As my pastor very often says, “We ain’t gotta be twins!”

So friends, where there may be disagreement, may there also be PASSIONATE worship.

Steve Schramm

P.S. If you feel anxious or nervous come Sunday about doing your part in the worship service well, click here to get started with Worship By Numbers™ and kick those Sunday morning confidence-killin’ blues.

The Pastor Is Always Right!

I read a tweet from a very respected pastor and evangelist last night that said this:

“I heard a minister of music say today, ‘There are two rules to work with a pastor. Rule #1: The Pastor is always right. Rule #2: When the Pastor is wrong, refer to rule #1’. Smart Minister of Music!”

I’ve served in two churches in 6 years of ministry so far. Before that, when I traveled the country more extensively singing, I was in a different church each night, several nights a week. I’ve spent most of my adult life being around Pastors, church staff, and church leaders. I can 100% attest that the above statement is true. Does it ACTUALLY mean that the pastor is always right? Of course not. That’s one of the reasons you as the worship leader are in the position that you are- to bring something to the table for the worship service. Your thoughts, your opinion, your abilities to serve- those are all valuable things. In the ministry where I currently serve, our pastor has given me a lot of freedom to make decisions, and to own my responsibilities. It’s made me a better leader, and a better worship leader.

Now, inevitably, there will be times in ministry where you disagree with the pastor. We’re human. We have differences of opinion, and that’s okay. As a matter of fact, it’s quite healthy to surround yourself with people who may think a little differently than you. In the grand scheme of things, though, your role in relation to your Pastor is one of support. You’re there to help guide the hearts of a congregation to be receptive to the Word of God as it’s preached. If there is a disagreement on a matter, it’s much wiser to err on the Pastor’s preference and honor his wishes on a musical matter than to “buck the system” in a selfish, public manner. If you feel the need to speak to the pastor about the disagreement, find some time outside of church to speak and open that dialogue. You’ll never regret serving your Pastor and your church selflessly. Part of serving God’s church through music, I believe, is ministering to the Pastor, as well as the church. If you know there’s a song that he loves, throw that song in there, and watch his face light up as he prepares to preach God’s Word. You may never know what that song does for him.

How does that work practically speaking in my experience? I’ll give two examples. A few months ago, our pastor and I were glancing over music for the upcoming weeks and asked if we could remove a song from our rotation of songs and replace it with another. My response was “Sure thing, after we sing it tomorrow, I’ll pull it from the list”. His response? “see if you can pull it before then.” I was presented with a choice in the matter. I could show myself and ask for an explanation as to why we would remove a perfectly good song, and make it a problem between the two of us, or I could simply go ahead, remove the song, and life would go on. There are some hills that are not worth dying on.

Another example is that often during our invitations at church, I’ll slip up to the piano and play something. Nearly every week, I end up singing a verse or two of a song during invitation. Every so often our Pastor will ask me to do a specific song for the invitation. He usually tries to warn me ahead of time, but there have been other moments where he asked me to play a specific song while I was actually at the piano. How do we manage doing that during an invitation? Well- one way is by keeping a record of those songs. I have a folder on my iPad that I use at church with (at the moment) 76 songs that I’ve done over the past three years at our church that I know that our Pastor loves. I keep those in a folder called “Jake’s Jams” (it’s an inside joke). Now- how do I know how to play all those songs? Some of them I’ve played for years, but some of them I needed a little help on.

That’s where Worship By Numbers comes in. When I run into a song that’s unfamiliar to me, Worship By Numbers is a simple method that allows me to focus on the words while simply following along the chart I’ve created using the same number system that session players, and live stage musicians have used for decades now.

Working alongside your Pastor can be one of the greatest joys in your ministry. Don’t hurt your relationship just trying to build your own kingdom at your place of service.

Want to learn more about how this system can help you pick up songs quicker than ever? Visit www.worshipbynumbers.net for more info.

How to Know When to Sit Out

“The best musicians are those who know when they shouldn’t play” – Russell Easter, Jr., my mentor

One of the most challenging things for a musician to do…is stay silent.

Have you ever noticed that?

Every now and then I catch myself fiddling around with whatever instrument I am playing at the time while our worship leader (Ahem, Matt) is waxing eloquent in a speech to the choir. 🙂

And while I may joke about that, it’s really serious stuff.

And, how stinkin’ rude of me to even make a sound during those times. Yet, it’s almost a reflex.

But what I’m talking about goes wayyy beyond playing around while others are talking (although, that really is a simple, but important lesson).

Self-awareness is key.

What do I mean by that?


The fact is, you are likely not the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Perhaps the hardest thing for any high achiever to come to terms with is there is always someone who can do it better. Even if no one knows them.

You should peruse downtown Nashville sometime.

I have had the honor of traveling to Nashville in a tour bus, on someone else’s dime, to record in the Sirius-XM radio studio…

All while passing homeless musicians on the street who could EMBARRASS me if they picked up my instrument.

It’s really crazy…to think they have SO MUCH talent, yet almost no opportunity.

The point is…you are not God’s gift to music; music, however, is God’s gift to you.

And that means it is a “talent” you have been given to steward and use for his glory.

That, of course, means it should be used wisely and in such a way that would honor him.

Not for show. Not for vainglory.

At church the other night, a mixed group was singing “Holy Water” along with a soundtrack. (Talk about an awesome song.)

It’s a jam, that’s for sure. Matt asked if I was going to play. I told him I would if he wanted me to…but hadn’t planned on it.

Did I want to? YES. It’s really a cool song.

But I know when NOT to play.

And I knew that, in that particular context, I would I not be adding something, but taking something away.

Be it attention, be it musically, etc. It would have been more distracting than helpful.

So again, self-awareness is the key. In another context, I might have said yes! In this context, I said no, because I knew better.

If you struggle to know when/when not to play, you are not alone…I would love nothing more than to help guide you through that, as a member of Worship By Numbers™.

While the core of Worship By Numbers™ is a learning a better way to actually play music, the entire course is structured around creating a well-oiled worship band.

You’ll not only improve your musical chops, but elevate the rest of the group at the same time.

It’s free for your first 14 days! Here’s the link: www.WorshipByNumbers.com

Steve Schramm

The Sweet Hour of Prayer

“One of the greatest forms of pride is the absence of prayer.” – Pastor Jake Potter

Last night’s message at church was a hard-hitter.

Let me ask you a question…

Are you one of those rare birds who has a bustling prayer life?

….or are you more like the rest of us?

The rest of us? Thought so!

The fact is, many of us have a hard time with the idea of prayer.

At the church I used to attend, we would hold special prayer services the Friday night before a revival or special series of services was about to begin.

There were called “all-night prayer meetings.”

Here was the deal:

  1. Your family signs up for a time between 7pm-7am.
  2. You show up at your appointed time and observe the prayer list at the front.
  3. You pray for one hour, and then you’re done.

This always reminds me of the scene in the Garden of Gethsemane (which, yes, was mentioned during last night’s sermon), where the disciples of Jesus couldn’t even stay awake long enough to keep watch while Jesus prayed for one more hour!

Frankly, I did not fare much better at all-night prayer meetings.

You have to admit… it’s actually pretty hard to remain in a posture and a spirit of prayer for that long. Especially in our fast-paced culture.

Get to the point already, Steve…

Well—I’m not really sure there is one.

I do think there may be some practical analogy to preparation for worship, though.

Think about it:

Do you view your participation in the worship experience as a calling, or a duty?

Btw, it’s okay to see it as a duty…as long as you see it as a calling as well 🙂

It’s an area where we can serve. Where we can use the talent’s we’ve been given by God for his glory.

Are you asleep on the job?

I mean, can you give it just 1 hour of practice this week? Do you think you could fit that into your busy schedule?

Let us remember, brothers and sisters, that we do not do what we do to satisfy our fleshly (or even our spiritual) love for music; rather, it is for The Lord.

The spirit of worship requires reverence, preparation, and commitment.

We all—myself included—could use a heavier dose of those things. And a shot in the arm of prayer would help too.

While we don’t have the magic antidote for staying awake during prayer meeting, we do have the exact method you need to cut rehearsal time in half, make it fun and exciting to play new music, and become a more productive member of your worship team.

You can sign up FREE today at www.WorshipByNumbers.com

Steve Schramm

P.S. Maybe we’ll work on Prayer By Numbers next. For now, one thing at a time: www.WorshipByNumbers.com

“Contemporary” Worship vs “Biblical” Worship

The idea of “the worship wars” has always been fascinating to me.

For some, this is but a distant reality. For others, a present concern.

I was having a great discussion last night with a few brothers, one of whom is a self-described “contemporary worship leader.”

I—and probably you—know precisely what he means by that term…

However, there are certain connotations that come along with such a word. He recognized them, and yet embraced the term.

So, perhaps there is something instructive here.

My buddy’s concern is that often the word “contemporary” is associated with the sort of physiologically manipulative words, sounds, and behaviors often used by magicians and illusionists in order to illicit a certain response from their crowd.

It’s a pretty valid concern, right?

Not to mention, the word only fuels “the worship wars” because it pits music written during a certain time period vs music written during another.

For example, Keith and Kristyn Getty are modern hymn writers.

And yet, the “traditionalist” will often criticize their music for being “contemporary”…

Now I ask you:

What in the world does a period of time have to do with what songs we should choose to sing?

I mean, have you ever thought about that intelligently for more than three seconds?

I think it is certainly fair for those in leadership of their church to make a decision based on preferences of genre, etc., as to what will be allowed.

For example, in our church, we sing “contemporary” worship songs.

But I have a hard time believing we will have Lecrae in for a concert anytime soon.

Does that mean Lecrae’s music is objectively wrong?

Of course not!

But it would not fit the context of our church well (at least in my opinion).

The word contemporary just means: “Living or occurring at the same time.”

By that definition, every song written during the time we live is contemporary. Do you see the utter absurdity?

It would be like saying it is not okay to sing the songs that are written today because they are written today, but in 300 years from now, they will be just fine.

So what’s the solution?

As long as there are pastors and worship leaders (so, forever) there will be different styles of music that make sense within different congregations, because music does have a very serious preferential element to it.

However, when we’re trying to decide whether a song is biblically sound, there can only be one standard: the Bible.

(Imagine that.)

And while I realize “the worship wars” are a thing of the past for so many, there are thousands still living this debate.

To those in such a situation, I would implore you to begin to think biblically about music.

Here are some questions one could ask:

  1. Is there express biblical teaching that the words of the song are at best inaccurate or at worst heretical?
  2. Does this song add something meaningful to my experience of God, take something meaningful away from my experience to God, or is it entirely indifferent to my experience of God?
  3. Do the words of this song sound more like a love song to my spouse than to my Creator and King?
  4. Was this song written in such a way (whether intentionally or unintentionally) to induce a sort of psychological experience through manipulation?
  5. Could this song be redeemed by attaching a different genre of music to its performance?

This is not an exhaustive list, but it’s a start.

Want to know the problem though?

It’s just so much easier to paint with a broad brush and label a song as “contemporary” if it allows you to get out of thinking about it for more than two seconds.

If we are interested in being folks who love, worship, and honor God, is it not worth our time to carefully think through how we worship him?

I question whether a person really loves God if he will not devote a few moments of his time to think about how he chooses to worship.

There are some songs I will not participate in because I have thought through these questions.

By the way: Some of them are hymns.

Yes, there are hymns that teach unbiblical ideas. Should we still sing them just because they written during an acceptable time period?

Give me a break.

So, I implore you: Instead of thinking about “traditional” music or “contemporary music,” let us be worshippers who think about biblical, Christ-honoring music.

That, my friends, is the way.

If you are interested in learning more about how to bring biblical worship into your church context, I invite you to join us for free inside of Worship By Numbers™.

It’s our program designed to teach worship leaders and musicians how to bring the band together, have more confidence than ever come Sunday, and understand how to play music like the pro’s do.

Here’s the link: www.WorshipByNumbers.com

Steve Schramm

The Big “Why” Behind Worship By Numbers™

“To each there comes in their lifetime a special moment when they are figuratively tapped on the shoulder and offered the chance to do a very special thing, unique to them and fitted to their talents. What a tragedy if that moment finds them unprepared or unqualified for that which could have been their finest hour.” – Winston Churchill

Music has been flowing through my veins for a long time.

Ever since I was but a tiny lad, I KNEW I was going to do something in music one day. But of course, I had no idea what.

I couldn’t sing.

I couldn’t play an instrument.

The path did not become clear for quite some time. It’s still a bit foggy, but becoming clearer every day.

I’ll never forget the day, though, when it finally became real—when I saw a path from “maybe I could do this someday” to “here’s how it’s gonna happen.”

It was a Winter day, just after school had started, midway through my Freshman year of high school.

Our family had just moved to NC, and a family friend in the area owned a recording studio, and had his own gospel music group!

(Oh yeah, I was like a kid in a candy store.)

They were recording their latest album, and I was absolutely mesmerized. The studio. The musicians. The sounds. The music.

It was just the coolest thing I had ever experienced.

I determined that day to hone my skills. That was the goal: Work in a recording studio.

Although it worked out a little differently than I thought (in a good way), that’s exactly what I did.

I met my best friend, Jared Easter, around a year or two after that day. His family is well-known in gospel music. They owned a recording studio. And ultimately, he taught me what would become the foundation for Worship By Numbers™.

The thing is—everything changed for me after I unlocked the keys to music. The moment I learned that ALL you have to do to become a rockstar musician was learn how play music by numbers, the lightbulb went on.

But here’s the cool thing I found out:

Every musician I introduced this to had the same epiphany I did.

So I started thinking…I need to introduce this to MORE musicians.

And that, my friends, is how Worship By Numbers™ was born. I partnered with two of my buddies, Matt (the other “Worship Guy”) and Todd (an awesome friend, musician, and studio owner) to bring you this program.

Why should you join? Two main reasons.

First of all, I am CONVINCED you will have the same epiphany about music that I did. And if you do, it will change everything for you.

Second of all, it’s free for your first 14 days! You can log in, get a feel for the course and the community, and decide later whether or not you’d like to stick around.

Think you’re ready to give it a shot?

Here’s the link: www.WorshipByNumbers.com

Steve Schramm

Worship Audibles: How to React When the Music Goes Haywire

Have you ever been there? You know, you’re playing a song during worship that you haven’t played in like 3 years…

You start out pretty well…

Make it through those verses and choruses okay…

Then, the bridge happens.

And everything goes haywire.

(Some songs are not even courteous enough to wait until the bridge to start messing with us 🙂 #amiright?)

What happens then?

This totally happened to us last night.

We were playing “Who Am I” by Casting Crowns. And lest you think we have it all together…well, that bridge really did a number on us.

None of us actually played it right (though yours truly might have been the closest…jus’ sayin).

Yet, we made it through just fine. I doubt anyone besides us knew any different.

How to react? What to do? Do we panic? Get nervous? Sweaty? Run off stage crying like a baby…….?


We have a plan, and we stick to it. See, the tricky thing about music is that it’s just not as complicated as you are making it.

There’s nothing more stressful than worrying about that next part coming up that you didn’t have time to practice, forgot to practice, neglected to practice, etc.

You know what it’s supposed to sound like, but you have no clue how to make it happen.

That’s what happened last night for us. So, what did we do? I’ll speak for myself: I resorted back to my training.

I have not played “Who Am I” in…gosh, I have no clue how long. Conservatively, five years. Probably more like 10.

Regardless, it was never in regular rotation. I could count on one hand the number of the times EVER I’ve played the song…

But, as you know music is infectious, so I remembered what each part of the song sounded like. How did I play pretty-darn-close-to-right?


Yep, I used Worship By Numbers™ as we were playing the song.

You see, when you use Worship By Numbers™, you eliminate the panic that comes from not knowing how to play a song—this is because you know how music works.

If you know the major scale and can count to 7, you can learn how to play any song on the fly…even if you haven’t heard it in umpteen years. (Sometimes, even if you’ve NEVER heard it before.)

Want to learn how for yourself?

Here’s the link: www.WorshipByNumbers.com

Steve Schramm

Worship with a Why

One of my personal favorite hobbies is the intense study of Christian theology and apologetics.


Yeah, that was my first question too…

The word “apology” has changed meaning over time. Today, it means “to say I’m sorry.”

Initially though, the word meant something like, “to give a reasoned defense.”

Here’s the big question…why worship God, anyway?

To be worthy of worship, he must be:

  • Good
  • Loving
  • Just
  • REAL
  • And a bunch more stuff the Bible says that he is….

But can we trust the Bible?

Can we know things about God from, say, science? Philosophy? Even mathematics?

Perhaps you’ve never thought about those things.

Fortunately for us heaven-bound-earthings—the answer is yes.

So, who cares? What’s the point?

Isn’t it obvious? Do you know WHY you worship Who you worship?

Would you spend hours each week worshipping, adoring, studying, and promoting some one or some thing you didn’t even believe in?

Make this a priority in your life. It will truly change EVERYTHING about the way you worship.

Hey speaking of worship…….

Worship leaders and musicians often struggle to have productive rehearsals because the entire band is not on the same page. Been there?

We created Worship By Numbers™ to give EVERYONE a SINGLE SYSTEM that will keep you on the same page.

(Look, you KNOW it’s frustrating trying to tell a guitarist with a capo what chord to play next. Or a keyboardist with an unweildy transpose key….)

Think you can’t overcome that? Think again—and find out for sure—at www.WorshipByNumbers.com.

Steve Schramm

Ahoy, Mateys! There’s a New Podcast A’Brewin’

Cue Narrator Voice

In a world where…

Totally kidding. But for real, there’s a podcast coming soon, and you should listen to it.

Here’s where you can get the goods: ==>Here<==

Introducing, The Worship Guys Podcast!

Another podcast? About worship? Hasn’t this been done already?

Such a skeptic, you are…

For real though, the reason for this podcast is multi-faceted.

Matt, the resident worship leader, has had many peers (both experienced and inexperienced) ask his thoughts on how to build and structure a worship music program from the ground up.

We’re going to get a little vulnerable here. He sent me a message that was too good—and too real—to keep from you.

I’ve been meaning to ask you something. I’ve really been burdened about trying to write some stuff about church music. Like how we balance things, why we balance, steps to take in establishing some balance etc. I get questions about it quite a bit- mainly because they’re familiar with Jake and they see our services. And I have a few friends in ministry who are trying to do the same thing we are (singing ACTUAL music). The road block I run into is that I feel like I could give some sort of answer for it, but I’m just not sure how to go about it. I thought about a blog. I don’t want it to be perceived like “well Matt must think he knows everything”. Because you and I both know that’s crap. Also- I barely escaped Bible college. I just think I do have some things that have worked for us, and people do ask me about it quite a bit. Doesn’t make me a subject matter expert, but if I can be some sort of help in explaining what works at Eufola, then I’d love to be a help. Did you ever go through that in your apologetics work?

Sorry to disappoint, but we don’t know everything. However, we do know that we have value to bring to the table.

So this blog—and our upcoming podcast—is the feeble attempt by Matt and myself to speak something useful into your life, whether you are a worship pastor, worship leader, musician, etc.

We are not perfect; that said, we have YEARS in the trenches. We are still there!

The important thing is that we have experiences that YOU, dear friend, can learn from.

Why make the mistakes we did?

Why not take advantage of the successes we’ve had?

Why not learn from the lessons we’ve learned?

Why not overcome the insecurities we faced?

Why not push past the roadblocks WE ran into it?

So we’re not perfect, we’re not “gurus,” and we’re not know it alls…but we know some things, and desperately want be there for you (almost more than stripes wanna be on a Zebra).

Be on the lookout for The Worship Guys Podcast. It’s coming soon!

For your information, we are putting the final touches on Worship By Numbers™, our system that will make music come alive for you in a fresh, exciting way.

If you’re motivated to ditch the Sunday-morning-confidence-obliterating-blues, you can sign up here:


Steve Schramm

Worship Moments

My partner-in-crime, Matt, talks often about creating “Worship Moments.”

He has his own set of thoughts about what this means, what it looks like, etc.

One thing is for sure: it occurs to me that whatever “worship moments are,” I need to have more of them…

Think about it: How many of the daily blessings do you take for granted?

Do you have a spouse at home that loves and supports you no matter what?

Do you have kids that are so pumped to see you it’s like the ice cream truck just came be-bopping along?

Opportunities to worship “in spirit and truth” lie all around us each day.

I want to encourage you to SEIZE those opportunities.

(You’re not getting any younger ya know.)

My wife, God bless her. She puts up with so much.

We had a really good conversation last night just about priorities, some schedule changes we need to make, etc.

It went so well, and many men are not so fortunate. That’s a worship moment. She saw a pattern, we talked calmly about it, and made some progress.

That’s a worship moment.

Are you missing worship moments in your own life?

Please, let’s remember that worship—especially the experience we put forward on Sunday—is, as E.M. Bounds said of preaching, “Not the performance of an hour. It is the outflow of a life.”

A life lived in awe of God and toward him in worship Monday-Saturday will show in a BIG way come Sunday.

Come; NOW is the time to worship.

Steve Schramm

P.S. We are still putting our beta group together for Worship By Numbers™. You can join here www.WorshipByNumbers.com.

The #1 Epiphany You Need To Have To Completely Change the Way You Think About Music

This morning at church, I was working with a buddy of mine who’s learning how to play music by numbers.

He’s a work in progress, but he’s doing a super great job! The progress is really incredible.

But like anything new, sometimes, we get in our own way…

Does this sound like you?

You’re learning something new. You want to fully embrace this new idea, strategy, or philosophy.

And yet, you keep retreating back into the familiar.

This is EXACTLY what was happening to him.

We teach our students to use numbers instead of notes when playing music.

Why? Reason 7,569: You don’t have to memorize chords.

So, what was he doing? Trying to memorize how chords relate to numbers.

No, no, no, no, no! That misses the point. And I told him so.

All you need to do—the only thing AT ALL you need to do—is know the major scale. That’s it! Intellectually, that’s the only tool you need.

We all know it gets more complicated than that, though. And it’s ok. It’s why he is a student. Maybe you are a student. That’s okay. (We’re all students of someone, by the way.)

We created Worship By Numbers™ because we have a SINCERE belief that learning our system will change everything for you.

Want to put us to the test?

Join here for free: www.WorshipByNumbers.com.

Steve Schramm

P.S. We are working on filling up our beta group right now. There’s a very limited number of spots (we’re playing it by ear). Today, you can get in for FREE, with a small monthly commitment thereafter.

Beyond that, who knows… so join now.

How to DRAMATICALLY Decrease Rehearsal Time and Increase Your Confidence Level(!!) Come Sunday Morning

The Worship Guys is our name. Counting to 7….that’s our game.

Say what now?

Yep. Our reason for existence is to teach you math.

Totally kidding. I was TERRIBLE at math. Still am.

Still…what if I told you that if you want to be a great worship musician, all in the world you need to know is how to count to 7.

That’s it. Nothing more.

Okay, so there’s a little more.

You still have to practice…

You still have to show up…

You still have to care…

But you DON’T have to:

  • Read sheet music
  • Learn guitar tabs
  • Practice the same song for hours on end
  • Pay hundreds per month for music lessons
  • Be a maestro from momma’s womb

If you’re reading this, I bet you’re doing/thinking most if not all of those. I give you permission: STOP. There’s a better way.

Want to know more? Register for our upcoming web class.

It’s FREE! (Free free, free free free free.)

Register here.

Steve Schramm

Living the #WorshipLife

So, what is worship anyway?

I get it…it’s too “cliche” to say something like, “worship isn’t just music.”

That doesn’t make it any less true, though.

So worship is a lifestyle. Worship is also music. Worship is an atmosphere. Worship is a disposition. Worship is a posture.

Worship is a lot of things!

The #WorshipLife is all of these things wrapped up together. A life honoring to God.

Here’s the thing: Sometimes the #WorshipLife is elusive.

Wait, what…?

You heard me right. I don’t always feel like worshipping. Can you relate?

One thing that’s really cool about the job of the worship pastor/leader/singer/musician is that we get to, at least once per week, help people get into that “zone.”

It’s the zone we all WISH were a 24/7 thing, but KNOW it isn’t.

So, worship is atmosphere. An atmosphere that we GET to help CREATE in the hearts and minds of those we’re blessed to serve.

Want to learn how to do that better than ever before? Join our program for FREE here:


Steve Schramm

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